imprudent cuts, if we go too far, we risk the peace. and i don't want to do that. i have seen what it is like to see a war and to see the burdens of a war, and i don't want to see us make wreckless cuts. because of our programs, we have been able to gnificantly cut defense spending. let's not cut into the muscle, and let's not cut down our insurance policy, which is ipation of american forces in nato, the greatest peace keeping organization ever made today. you got problemeurope, still bubbling along, even though europe is going democracy's oute, but we are there, and i think this insurance policy is nece i think it goes with world leadership, and i think the levels we have come up with just about right. >> mr. perot, one minute, sir. >> if i'm poor and you're rich, and i can get you to defend that's good, but when the tables turned, i will do my share.